It might therefore be worth it to try the approach to the steps used in this step study, based on the big book. In this part of the alcoholics anonymous big book study, joe and charlie discuss the chapter we agnostics this series of talks came about from a friendship that started in alcoholics anonymous. This is because we agnostics includes terms such as creative intelligence, which would appear not to gel with the notion that we are allowed to accept the greater scientific universe as the higher power of our choosing. A little ditty on the big book of alcoholics anonymous we agnostics. Joe and charlies we agnostics big book step study my. Joe and charlie the big book comes alive we agnostics. Aa history part 1 12step origins and the big book of alcoholics anonymous great aa history stuff.
The big book comes alive group is a study group, designed to learn and carry the message printed in the text, alcoholics anonymous, therefore this is a meeting about a solution. We agnostics i n the precedingchapters you have learned something of alcoholism. Joe and charlie big book workshop part 18 gemma b, a very funny woman who. Speakers joe and charlie we agnostics the big book comes alive download the transcript to the entire book study here aa big book ch5 how it works 4th edition aa big book ch3 more about alcoholism 4th edition jay s. We hope we have made clear the distinction between the alcoholic and the nonalcoholic. Many times we talk to a new man and watch his hope rise as we discuss his alcoholic problems and explain our fellowship. Chapter 4 we agnostics this chapter explains the atheist and the believer. I guess i was a bit of a fundamentalist at the time and feared that it wouldnt work if i didnt follow directions exactly. May 21, 2008 in its chapter, we agnostics, the big book outlines its attitude toward spiritual and religious matters.
The big book would advise you, however, not to be too perturbed by these references. Or pick from one of many of the favorite parts we have singled out on our website. Hold to download or tapclick to play the mp3 audio tape. Quad a alcoholics anonymous for atheists and agnostics was launched in 1975 in chicago.
As we continue to study the big book we will learn there is nothing we can do about the physical allergy of the body. A comprehensive alcoholics anonymous big book study with aa speaker howard e. Words contained within the first 164 pages of the big book. We wish to make the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous part of our. The individual sections of this study guide material reflect ideas, emotions and attitudes you might hear from the. Chapter 4 we agnostics step 2 concluded published by joe b on may 17, 2018. That means we have written a book which we believe to be spiritual as well as moral.
It might therefore be worth it to try the approach to the steps used in. If, when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic. Here are the rest of the joe and charlies big book study. This is the third time we have been referred to appendix ii spiritual experience. They have a huge inventory of downloadable audio recordings for those in recovery. Oct 12, 2017 one of many good places to begin is in alcoholics anonymous aka the big book, specifically chapter 4, we agnostics. One can now listen to the alcoholics anonymous big book from front to back, or by choosing a chapter. This is a long chapter, but like the rest of the big book, the ideas are simple and straightforward. The cds are each labeled with the topic they cover. The two men began to study the book together, and over time, other members of aa began to get wind of what they were doing. Aa speakers joe and charlie we agnostics the big book. Joe and charlie cover the chapter we agnostics from the big book of alcoholics anonymous in such masterly detail.
It is named, of course, after a chapter in alcoholics anonymous often called the big book. Joe mcquany and charlie parmley, a team of two men who died in 2007 and 2011, respectively known as joe and charlie who met in 1973 and spent the next three decades spreading their interpretation of the big book. Gaines believes that the clarity of joe and charlies message is what has helped the big book comes alive recordings so. Chapter 2 there is a solution, chapter 3 more about alcoholism and chapter 4 we agnostics gives us this information. Beth and dan conduct a workshop on the chapter we agnostics at an.
A perspective on we agnostics chapter 4 of the big book. Our goal is to study the steps as a friendly, focused group, and work them as the authors of the big book described. Aa speaker turn our will and our lives over to the care of god new 20 duration. What about those sanctimonious church goers who judge me for. Recovery charlie and joe big book study paul babin 20200404t12. Joe and charlie big book studythis is a set of 11 cds and a copy of the handouts used in the workshop. And it means, of course, that we are going to talk about god. Someone started taping them, and by 1974, the tapes started to spread throughout the fellowship. We agnostics aa big book chapter 4 aa big book big book of aa alcoholics anonymous doctors opinion how it works aa preamble alcoholism recovery 4th edition 3rd edition 2nd edition alcohol allergy rehabilitation of alcoholics dr. In its chapter, we agnostics, the big book outlines its attitude toward spiritual and religious matters. Chapter 4 we agnostics page 41 notice the asterisk at the bottom of the page. Chapter 4 we agnostics page 40 for either case, atheist or agnostic, we are going to have to find some way to have this spiritual experience, and to use this power greater than human power. Aa newcomers the big book promises spiritual awareness, but its your first few days in recovery and you dont even know where the toilets are.
Charlie and joe big book study guide pdf these recordings and workbook were created by upper room communications. Includes free pdf downloads that go along with each weekly lesson. Jan 29, 2017 in this part of the alcoholics anonymous big book study, joe and charlie discuss the chapter we agnostics this series of talks came about from a friendship that started in alcoholics anonymous. How could there possibly be a god when there are so many starving people and wars where everybody says god is on their side.
Joe and charlie the big book comes alive, an album by on spotify we and our partners use cookies to personalize your experience, to show you ads based on your interests, and for measurement and analytics purposes. One of many good places to begin is in alcoholics anonymous aka the big book, specifically chapter 4, we agnostics. For many of us that seems to be an impossible task. Joe had wondered if charlie might be the countrywestern singer charlie pride. Alcoholism12 step support a perspective on we agnostics chapter 4 of the big book im not going for this god stuff.
Many times we talk to a new man and watch his hope rise as we discuss his alcoholicproblems and explain our fellowship. Joe and charlie tapes download mp3 format toledo aa. What is everyone laughing about here is a collection of talks to help you survive and thrive. The word broken down from greek is, a meaning without, and gnosis meaning knowledge. Oct 05, 2014 i thought it had to be done precisely as laid out in the big book, and although bill w. Joe and charlie the big book comes alive aa area 60. Reading guide for we agnostics amethyst recovery center. Joe and charlies more about alcoholism big book step study 5 of 20 joe and charlies we agnostics big book step study 6 of 20 joe and charlie cover the chapter there is a solution from the big book of alcoholics anonymous. We agnostics in the preceding chapters you have learned something of alcoholism. Here are the rest of the joe and charlies big book study tapes. In doing so, the big book also presents a method by which readers can investigate theological questions for themselves. Step 1 steve from australia sober in 1993 search podcasts. A little ditty on the big book of alcoholics anonymous we.
Joe and charlie tapes big book study mp3 joe and charlie a brief history. A little ditty on the big book of alcoholics anonymous. During any such meeting to study the aa big book, you would expect to encounter a wide variety of viewpoints on the portions under consideration. Joe and charlie big book workshop part 18 gemma b, a very funny woman who carries a great message. If the steps arent working for you, then maybe youre not working the steps in a way that works for you. Mar 27, 2017 a little ditty on the big book of alcoholics anonymous we agnostics. Sep 07, 2017 quad a alcoholics anonymous for atheists and agnostics was launched in 1975 in chicago. Audio blog of the wednesday night study group secondary navigation. Also they speak on the spiritual experience that we have as described in the big book on page 567. Joe and charlie big book study on 11 cds with handouts. Aug 19, 20 this is a long chapter, but like the rest of the big book, the ideas are simple and straightforward.
Joe mcquany and charlie parmley, a team of two men who died in 2007 and 2011, respectively known as joe. The big book oa stands for the proposition that the twelve steps give us freedom from the bondage of food. I think this chapter gets ignored quite often, especially by members that feel theyve got a good grasp of the faith business, but it helped me a great deal when i was trying to wrap my brain around step 2. By the very act of critiquing chapter 4, we agnostics, i admittedly commit aa heresy. Alcoholics anonymous big book study the best of aa. This is the audio version of the fourth edition of the big book, the basic text for alcoholics anonymous. The big book audio version 6 hours the history of alcoholics anonymous beginners classes. Joe and charlie the big book comes alive by aaspeaker. It is the basic text of the fellowship of alcoholics anonymous, and has helped large numbers of alcoholic men and women, young and old, recover. I thought it had to be done precisely as laid out in the big book, and although bill w. Jul 16, 2015 joe and charlie cover the chapter we agnostics from the big book of alcoholics anonymous in such masterly detail. The individual sections of this study guide material reflect ideas, emotions and attitudes you might hear from the mouth of that old timer over in the corner. I think this chapter gets ignored quite often, especially by members that feel theyve got a good grasp of the faith business, but it helped me a great deal when i. May 17, 2018 chapter 4 we agnostics step 2 concluded the wednesday night study group come and join us in person wednesday nights 7.
These cds are not endorsed by nor the product of, alcoholics anonymous, alanon, overeaters anonymous, narcotics anonymous or any other 12 step group. In this part of the alcoholics anonymous big book study, joe and charlie discuss the chapter we agnostics this series of talks came about. Many times we talk to a new man and watch his hope rise as we discuss his alcoho lic problems and explain our fellowship. Aa speakers joe and charlie we agnostics the big book comes alive duration.
This is a transcript of a big book workshop that joe and charlie have done around the world. Please be sure to read appendix ii about the spiritual experience. In 1977, some members met in a tulsa, ok hotel room for a discussion of the big book. Download free audiobooks in the mp3 format or play them straight via youtube. It is the basic text of the fellowship of alcoholics anonymous, and has helped large numbers of alcoholic men and women, young and old, recover as of december 2009, 30,664,881 copies of the big book have been sold or otherwise distributed source aa gso ny. If you are a member of the listening room our streaming audio. Folks, this tape has no tags or needs additional descriptive tags please add more tags in the comments section to help me categorize it better. Joe had been studying the big book since 1962, but since he was an africanamerican man living in little rock, arkansas during that time, he was only allowed to stand in the back of meetings, and. Big book workbook is for those who are willing to grow along spiritual lines 60.
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